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  • Senate committee schedules sixth hearing for SB 338 (Concealed Carry Reform) & HB 234 (Allow Noise Suppressors While Hunting)
    by Chad D. Baus

    Chairman Bill Coley has announced that the Senate Civil Justice Committee will be hearing testimony on SB 338, Sen. Joe Uecker's (R-Miami Township) Concealed Carry Law Reform Bill, next Wednesday, November 19 at 9:45 a.m. in the Finance Hearing Room. This will be the sixth hearing for this bill.

    Coley has also scheduled a sixth hearing for Rep. Cheryl Grossman's (R-Grove City) HB 234 (Allow Noise Suppressors While Hunting).

    Chairman Coley has indicated amendments may be considered on both bills before possible votes.

    SB 338 seeks to make many improvements to Ohio's concealed carry laws.

    The bill proposes to allow non-residents to apply for and receive an Ohio Concealed Handgun License (CHL) if they work in Ohio. This has become an issue for school employees who live in a bordering state and work in Ohio. To comply with federal law regarding carrying firearms in school zones, including the 1,000 foot perimeter around school property, one must possess a license from the state the school is located in. This bill would make it possible for these people to comply with federal law. They would be required to pass the same training and background check as Ohio residents and must apply in the county they work, or any adjacent county.

    The bill would eliminate the 45 day residency waiting period before a person may apply for an Ohio CHL and clarify that an Ohio CHL would remain valid until expiration if a person moves out of state. These provisions allow persons to move into or out of Ohio and not have a lapse in their licensing to carry firearms.

    Under the bill, completing OPOTA (law enforcement) training will satisfy the requirements of the training to obtain a CHL, as will military training, which will no longer expire. For everyone else, required training to obtain a concealed handgun license would change to eight (8) hours, which would still be above the national average.

    The bill also contains changes requested by law enforcement. The first change allows sheriffs to use money from the concealed carry expense fund to pay for other firearms training, as long as they are not unduly delaying people from applying for or renewing their CHL. Additionally, investigators appointed by the state attorney general to investigate Medicaid fraud would be authorized to go armed, in the same manner as sheriffs.

    The bill would delete the entire CHL application from revised code and charge the attorney general with maintaining the application. This eliminates the need to pass legislation to update the application and will streamline the process. The A.G. must ensure the application is compatible with Ohio law and may not add any restrictions that are not in the law.

    Lastly, the bill contains a technical fix so that all restorations will have the same function of law.

    The bill, which can be viewed in its entirety here.

    If you want to see the General Assembly act to improve gun rights in ways that are already enjoyed by the majority of other states, call your Representative and Senator NOW and tell them you expect pro-gun legislation to move in Ohio BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. They asked for your vote on Tuesday, November 4. Tell them we want their votes too.

    Chad D. Baus is the Buckeye Firearms Association Secretary, BFA PAC Vice Chairman, and an NRA-certified firearms instructor. He is the editor of BuckeyeFirearms.org, which received the Outdoor Writers of Ohio 2013 Supporting Member Award for Best Website.



  • Straight-walled cartridges bring excitement and concerns to Ohio deer gun season
    by Larry S. Moore

    The Ohio deer season and especially the upcoming deer gun week always generates a lot of hope and excitement. This year the added bonus of having our first rifle season using a limited number of straight-walled cartridges (SWC) for rifles is creating some additional excitement. As with anything new there is some confusion. So the first thing is a look at the rules and then some common-sense approaches to keep everyone out of trouble.

    The allowable SWC for rifles are specified in the Ohio Hunting and Trapping Regulations 2014 - 2015. They are on page 9 of the booklet which is available at Division of Wildlife offices and license agent outlets. (See the attached graphic) The book may also be downloaded from the Division of Wildlife website at www.wildohio.gov. Among the shooters I've encountered at ranges and gun clubs the most commonly discussed calibers are the .357 Mag; .44 Mag; .444 Marlin and the .45-70 cartridges. All are excellent choices for deer hunting with a variety of ammunition readily available (if you are willing to pay the price). I am using the.45-70 in a Marlin Model 1895. My hunting buddy and his son have both opted for the .444 Marlin. A good friend is using his antique Springfield Trap Door in .45-70.

    One needs to understand their firearm and ammunition especially when dealing with the .45-70. There is a wide variety of ammunition and reloading specifications for the .45-70. However, some of the ammunition, such as the new Hornady LEVERevolution, is not safe to use in the older guns, such as the Springfield Trap Door, whose action is not as strong. Those reloading should carefully follow their reloading manuals. My manuals list separate loads for the Trap Door, Marlin, and Ruger #1 rifles.

    The Division of Wildlife conducted field training regarding the firearms using the SWC. Not all officers may be familiar with some types of the older firearms, such as the Trap Door. Officers were presented with the various cartridges and the firearms. They were given instruction and hands-on training on all the firearms types so they can safely check the firearms in the field. The officers were also given a ballistics overview of the SWC performance. Generally, these firearms are no more powerful than the current inline muzzleloaders or deer slug guns using sabot bullet technology.

    An area of confusion seems to be in the revision to the three-shot limit rule. Previously the rule required that a shotgun had to have a plug in the magazine to limit the capacity to two rounds in the magazine and 1 round in the chamber. The addition of the SWC rifles presented a dilemma. While shotguns are easily plugged many of the lever action rifles are much more difficult possibly even requiring a gunsmith. Cowboy Action shooters certainly didn't want to insert a plug for deer hunting but have to remove it for competition. The Division of Wildlife removed the requirement that the firearms be physically plugged but retained the three shot limit rule. Rifles and shotguns capable of holding more than one round of ammunition are not required to be plugged. However they may not be loaded with more than three rounds total. Normally this consists of one round in the chamber and two rounds in the magazine. Migratory bird hunters who might use the same shotgun for both deer and duck should be cautious about removing the plug from their shotgun. The federal rules require semi-auto and pump shotguns to be plugged for a three-shot limit.

    Naturally there will be some who want to cheat the system. Most deer hunters, especially in certain public areas, often hear five, six, seven or even more shots on opening morning. There are either three hunters standing shoulder-to-shoulder or someone is cheating. There is no reason to cheat. Most of us get our deer on the first or second shot. Anything past that is largely a "Hail Mary" shot with the odds increasing that the deer will be wounded and not recovered. Yeah I've heard the stories of the running shot kill on the fifth round. It's unsafe and not needed.

    Some Wildlife Officers have expressed concern that hunters will load up the magazines and, when approached for a field check, will frantically attempt to unload their firearm. This could create a dangerous situation for the hunter and others in the group, as well as the Wildlife Officer. I spoke with Greene County Officer Matthew Hunt about what happens during a field check, how the officers are trained to approach a field check and what they want the hunter to do. The answers are amazingly simply and common sense.

    Officer Hunt explains, "Whenever I go to a hunter education class I address the issue of field checks. It seems that people often get crazy when they see the Wildlife Officer approaching. They start doing things like unloading their gun. This usually results in swinging the muzzle in an unsafe direction especially when there is a group of hunters. It is really simple and follow the basic rules of safe gun handling. Keep your gun pointed in a safe direction and keep your finger away from the trigger. Wait for the officer to provide instructions. I prefer they hand the firearm to me while they get their license from a wallet. If there is a need to check for a plug or check the three-shot limit I can safely do it."

    The Ohio Division of Wildlife has worked with Buckeye Firearms Association and other groups to develop the rules for the new SWC. We have an opportunity to enjoy a different type of firearm during Ohio's deer gun week. It's up to the deer hunters to be ethical and play by the rules. It's not difficult and there really is no need or great advantage gained by cheating. While the odds of getting caught may be small, the price could be quite large. How we behave in the field makes a difference the next time we want the rules changed. It makes a huge difference in the non-hunting public's view of hunters.

    Outdoor writer and hunter education instructor Larry S. Moore is a long-time volunteer leader for Buckeye Firearms Foundation and winner of the 2005 USSA Patriot Award, the 2007 League of Ohio Sportsmen/Ohio Wildlife Federation Hunter Educator of the Year and the 2010 National Wild Turkey Federation/ Women in the Outdoors Hunter Education Instructor of the Year.



  • Thanksgiving: George Washington's 1789 Proclamation

    Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor -- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me "to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."
    Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be -- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks -- for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation -- for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed -- for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted -- for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

    And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions -- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually -- to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed -- to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shown kindness onto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord -- To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us -- and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

    Given under my hand at the City of New York
    the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

    George Washington

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  • Youth Deer Gun Season Marks First Use of Rifles in Ohio
    by Larry S. Moore

    The early youth deer gun season was less than thirty-minutes old when five-year old Braxton Taylor made Ohio history. Young Taylor was hunting on a family farm in Union County with his step-father Isaac Heyne when he harvested a doe. It was among the early deer taken with one of the new straight-walled cartridge (SWC) rifles. Taylor also has taken two deer with his crossbow this season.

    The family resides in Mercer County while the deer was harvested in Union County on 11/22/14 at 7:25AM. The deer and the harvest has been verified through the Ohio Division of Wildlife. The SWC rifle was approved by the Ohio Wildlife Council earlier this year. Mr. Heyne noted that Taylor is using an apprentice youth license even though they were hunting on family farmland. This allows them to hunt other locations, as well as, provide support to the Division of Wildlife.

    Mr. Heyne commented, "It is great that the Division of Wildlife passed the rules to allow this type of firearm. He was using a Ruger that is smaller in the .44 magnum caliber. We went to the range all summer long to allow him to practice. He used a tripod from the bench during practice. He was hunting from a tree stand with a shooting rail. The reduced weight and, especially, the light recoil of the .44 magnum in a rifle is perfect for young hunters. It has been an unbelievable deer season for us."

    Mercer County Wildlife Officer Ryan Garrison adds, "I know the family and they are absolutely avid about their hunting. They do it the right way with proper supervision of the young hunter. This type of firearm, with reduced recoil, shoots a very accurate load. It is safe for everyone and gives young people an opportunity to hunt with a firearm they can handle. It is a great way to get the kids started. This is why we have and promote the youth seasons."

    The Buckeye Firearms Association (BFA) worked for several years with the Division of Wildlife and other constituent groups to pass the SWC regulations. The Ohio Farm Bureau Federation adopted a resolution at their 2013 annual convention supporting the use of SWC in Ohio. A key supporting reason for allowing the use of SWC rifles is the lighter recoil and weight makes many of them a perfect choice for smaller hunters.

    The Ohio Division of Wildlife is still verifying some deer checked to determine who actually harvested the first (legal) deer with a rifle in Ohio. That information is not yet officially available. The youth season recorded a total of 6453 deer harvested. That number is slightly below the last year's total of 6640. There were 378 deer taken using the new SWC rifles. There was at least one deer taken with a SWC rifle in every Ohio county. While the number is not large, the use across the state reflects the interest in this new option for Ohio deer hunting.

    Congratulations to young Braxton Taylor on his deer. My special thanks to Heyne who is working with Taylor and training him the right way getting him to the range and into the field. Heyne, who has hunted extensively, concluded, "Without a doubt this is the best hunt I've been on. The opportunity to get young people involved and pass along our heritage is simply priceless."

    Outdoor writer and hunter education instructor Larry S. Moore is a long-time volunteer leader for Buckeye Firearms Foundation and winner of the 2005 USSA Patriot Award, the 2007 League of Ohio Sportsmen/Ohio Wildlife Federation Hunter Educator of the Year and the 2010 National Wild Turkey Federation/ Women in the Outdoors Hunter Education Instructor of the Year.



  • Woman robbed at knife point at Kroger store; Moms (Don't) Demand Action
    by Chad D. Baus

    Dayton, Ohio's NBC affiliate, WDTN, is reporting that a Dayton woman was robbed at knifepoint while returning a DVD outside a local Kroger - an incident that is sure to draw national attention due to claims by Michael Bloomberg's Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America that there is never a need to carry a firearm for self-defense in or near a grocery store.

    From the article:

     A Dayton woman was robbed at knifepoint while returning a DVD.

    Police were called to the Kroger store at 1024 South Smithville Road just before 2:00 a.m. Tuesday.

    Their report says the victim told them she was approached as she was returning a DVD to the Redbox outside the store.

    She told officers the man pulled a knife and demanded her money. When she said she had none, the report indicates the man dug through her purse and stole a bank card.

    He rode off on a bicycle.

    The victim described the suspect as wearing a black hoodie with a flannel jacket over it. The hood was concealing his face.

    He is still on the loose.

    This isn't the first or the second, or even the third violent crime in or near a Kroger since the Bloomberg moms started their campaign to make certain every Kroger shopper is defenseless. In the past month or two, a man reported being robbed in a Kroger store bathroom in Ohio's Butler County, a teen mob beating a customer and two employees unconscious in Memphis, TN, and a man shooting a robber in self-defense in Kroger parking lot in Indianapolis, Indiana, just miles from the home of Moms Demand Action founder Shannon Watts.

    No business is immune to crime, and this article is certainly not meant to single out Kroger, a Cincinnati-based company which has refused attempts by the Bloomberg Moms group to bully the company into adopting a "no-guns" victim zone policy. But given the media attention the anti-gun rights Moms group is generating about Kroger, people are naturally going to take special note of any crimes that occur in the stores.

    Billionaire Bloomberg's newly-minted gun control groups, which includes the $50 million Moms and Everytown for Gun Safety astroturf groups, aren't getting off to a very good start, especially for groups that, like their predecessor Mayors Against Illegal Guns, didn't start with the grassroots and are simply PR smoke and mirrors.

    At the time it was launched in April, and despite the fact that he can afford to hire the finest public relations experts available, Bloomberg's $50 million "Everytown" campaign forgot to secure a Facebook page - and had to threaten to sue when a Second Amendment supporter created one himself, using it to show what REAL gun safety is.  The page accumulated more than 20,000 fans in just a couple of days, and state-level "off-shoot" pages began popping up all over the country.

    Next, one of the group's board members, former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, quit the group, citing his discomfort with some of the political work the group was planning.

    Later, the group made headlines when former MAIG boss Mark Glaze admitted to the Wall Street Journal that “it is a messaging problem” for gun control groups like Everytown “when a mass shooting happens and nothing that we have to offer would have stopped that mass shooting.”

    Soon thereafter, the group released a list of 74 supposed school shootings that had occurred since the Sandy Hook massacre in Newtown, Connecticut. It was soon revealed by journalist Charles C. Johnson, however, that not only did some of them not take place on campuses but that “fewer than 7 of the 74 school shootings listed by #Everytown are mass shootings,” that one or more probably didn’t happen at all, that at least one was actually a case of self-defense, and that 32 could be classified as “school shootings” only if, as National Review's Charles C. W. Cooke put it, we are to twist the meaning of the term beyond all recognition.

    Everytown's latest PR boondoggle is a commercial which depicts a woman calling 911 as her ex-husband kicks in the door, grabs her child and puts a gun to her head. The problem for the people in "Everytown" is that almost NO ONE in real towns who watched the commercial came away with the idea that everything would have turned out ok if only the bad guy didn't have a gun. Instead, most viewers - including several panelists on ABC's The View - found themselves wishing that the mother in the commercial DID have a gun.

    Before the Kroger crime incidents, Bloomberg's Moms group suffered a PR blow when, in response to their attempts to intimidate national corporations into discriminating against a large segment of their customer base who carry guns for self-defense, more than 57,000 smaller businesses recognized an opportunity to win over new customers by hanging up the "welcome" signs.  While they have claimed success in cases involving Starbucks, Target, Sonic and Chipotle, the truth is that not one of these corporations have posted "no-guns" signs in response to the Bloomies' efforts.

    Chad D. Baus is the Buckeye Firearms Association Secretary, BFA PAC Vice Chairman, and an NRA-certified firearms instructor. He is the editor of BuckeyeFirearms.org, which received the Outdoor Writers of Ohio 2013 Supporting Member Award for Best Website.



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  • Cleveland police shoot boy holding airsoft gun with orange tip removed; Democrat State Rep.'s knee-jerk reaction? California-style gun control bill
    by Chad D. Baus

    The Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting that a 12 year-old boy was shot by police Saturday afternoon after officers say he reached for a gun after he was ordered to put up his hands. Police say the gun that was recovered was not a firearm, but that an orange safety tip had been removed.

    The media, and anti-gun politicians have been quick to draw parallels to the shooting of a man in a Beavercreek Walmart just a few months ago. In that case, the man had picked up an unboxed air rifle off the store shelves and walked around for several minutes before police arrived, repeatedly shouldering the rifle.

    As they did after the Beavercreek incident, the media and anti-gun politicians are also mistakenly referring to the gun - either a BB gun or an airsoft gun, depending on which report you read - as a "fake" or a "toy." But as we explained in the wake of the Walmart shooting, there is nothing "fake" about something that can fire a projectile into a target at a very high rate of speed, and it's certainly not a "toy."

    This is why, while Title 15 of the Code of Federal Regulations stipulates (as noted here) that "no person shall manufacture, enter into commerce, ship, transport, or receive any toy, look-alike, or imitation firearm" without approved markings; these may include an orange tip, orange barrel plug, brightly colored exterior of the whole toy, or transparent construction," the law clearly indicates that these restrictions shall not apply to "traditional b-b, paint-ball, or pellet-firing air guns that expel a projectile through the force of compressed air, compressed gas or mechanical spring action, or any combination thereof." This language clearly exempts the type of guns carried in the Beavercreek Walmart and by this 12 year-old boy from these requirements.

    At the time of the Beavercreek shooting, while some speculated that an orange tip might have prevented the incident, we pointed out that such tips are easily removed, just as was reportedly the case in this incident involving the 12 year-old boy. We also noted that criminals are not above breaking the law and painting an orange tip on two very real AK-47s. In discussing this latest incident in Cleveland, Jeffrey Follmer, president of Cleveland's police union raised this exact same concern.

    Follmer told the Plain Dealer that a law mandating that guns other than firearms be painted in a certain way could result in criminals painting firearms to make them look less dangerous. As such, officers would follow the same protocol if a suspect pointed a gun at them, regardless of whether that gun was brightly colored or not, he said.

    "Our guys would still need to take the gun seriously until somebody puts it down," Follmer is quoted as saying.

    Despite these facts, State Rep. Alicia Reece (D-Cincinnati) has announced that she plans to introduce legislation, based off of a recently-passed California gun control law, requiring all BB guns, air rifles and airsoft guns sold in Ohio to be brightly colored or have prominent fluorescent strips.

    "The shooting of John Crawford III devastated many people in our community and left us looking for answers," Reece said in a news release. "This bill is but one small step in addressing this tragedy and helping to prevent future deadly confrontations with someone who clearly presents little to no immediate threat or danger. With Saturday's deadly shooting of a 12-year-old in Cleveland, it is becoming crystal clear that we need this law in Ohio."

    ...

    "There's always going to be things that need to be addressed," she said. "But what we do know is that we've seen two shootings that story with a toy gun and ended with a tragedy."

    Rep. Reece is absolutely incorrect in referring to the guns used in these incidents as "toys." And she has apparently never seen the wide variety of colors firearms are offered in firearms these days. So we thought we'd share a few pictures to help her out.

    Does Rep. Reece think BB gun, air rifle and airsoft manufacturers should make their guns look like this?

    Or maybe this?

    Or perhaps this?

    Does Rep. Reece honestly think police can afford to be any less concerned when the gun pointed at them is brightly colored? Fellow anti-gun State Rep. Bill Patmon (R-Cleveland) apparently does. He also thinks police could be trained to somehow to tell the difference in a split-second encounter:

    Rep. Bill Patmon, a Democrat from Cleveland, said he believes lawmakers should pass legislation that requires imitation or toy guns to be more distinguishable from real guns.

    "Too many of these confrontations end in death," Patmon said. "Too many."

    Patmon believes police officers should receive additional training on how to distinguish a real gun from an imitation or toy gun, and that officials should make an effort to educate the community about handling imitation or toy guns.

    He acknowledged that there could be pushback against putting regulations on imitation or toy guns, especially by the businesses that manufacture them.

    "The more it looks like a real gun, the more people will buy it," Patmon said. "The more it looks like a toy, fewer people will buy it.

    If Rep. Patmon believes that consumers judge these guns by their color, he had better take a closer look at Rep. Reece's proposal, which is intended to make the guns he is concerned about look like more like the firearms depicted above.

    One wonders what kind of training Mr. Patmon believes would help police officers to distinguish the firearms pictured above from the "brightly colored"  guns Rep. Reece envisions.

    The truth of the matter is, the color of the gun is no more important than the color of the person. Officers need to make their decisions based on actions, not color. Reece's bill will not help.

    What will help, as is often the case, is education. These guns are not toys, and each and every media article that calls them toys are helping contribute to the problem. Additionally, every parent should be teaching their children that they must immediately obey such instructions from police. And if we think it's a serious enough lesson, and if we believe that many parents won't teach it, then maybe our schools should be teaching it too.

    Chad D. Baus is the Buckeye Firearms Association Secretary, BFA PAC Vice Chairman, and an NRA-certified firearms instructor. He is the editor of BuckeyeFirearms.org, which received the Outdoor Writers of Ohio 2013 Supporting Member Award for Best Website.

    Media Coverage:

    Cleveland Plain Dealer - Buckeye Firearms Association Chairman calls Tamir Rice shooting 'legitimate'

    Buckeye Firearms Association Chairman Jim Irvine said Monday that a Cleveland police officer's decision to shoot an airsoft gun-wielding 12-year-old was a valid one.

    Irvine, whose association advocates for the rights of gun owners, cited the fact that the officer did not know at the time of the shooting that the child was armed with a toy gun that shot only plastic pellets.

    "In hindsight, at the time, with the information the police officer had, did he make a good decision? Was this a legitimate shoot? And from my opinion, yes it was," said Irvine. "If you have someone who has a gun in a waistband and does not comply with officers' orders and instead reaches for a firearm, the officer can not wait any longer."

    The boy, Tamir Rice, died early Sunday at MetroHealth Medical Center from a stomach wound. He was shot Saturday during an altercation with police at Cudell Park on Cleveland's West Side.

    After arriving at the park, officers saw Tamir pick up what they believed to be a gun from a table under a gazebo, put it in his waistband and take a few steps, according to Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association President Jeff Follmer.

    Officers drew their guns and told Tamir to raise his hands. Follmer said Tamir lifted his shirt and reached toward his waistband, then one of the two officers on the scene fired two shots, one hitting Tamir in the stomach.

    Police later discovered Tamir was carrying an airsoft gun that fires plastic pellets. An orange safety cap designed to distinguish the replica gun from an actual firearm had been removed, police said.

    "It is obviously a sad and tragic situation," Irvine said. "Condolences go out to the family of the little kid and also the officer. It's a terrible spot to put him in. Your officer has got to go home safely at the end of the night to his family. It is not right for the officer to risk his life because the citizen didn't comply with the situation."

    In the wake of Tamir's death, State Rep. Alicia Reece, a Cincinnati Democrat, announced she will introduce legislation that would require all BB guns, air rifles and airsoft guns sold in Ohio to be brightly colored or have prominent fluorescent strips.

    That won't work, Irvine said, because real firearms are already sold in bright colors.

    "I think she is very well meaning and affected by the tragedy as anyone is, but that bill is not going to solve the problem," he said. "You can not bet your life or anyone else's based on color. Not the color of the gun or the person's skin. If the person is non-compliant or is doing something that is endangering someone's life, they have to use lethal force to deal with it."

    What can prevent similar situations, Irvine said, are parents. He said there's nothing wrong with children using real or fake guns, but the same protocols should be followed for both types.

    "It's sad and it's tragic, and for every parent, it's a time to talk to your kids about this," he said. "When a cop gives you an order, you have to follow it. If a police officer tells you to do something, you better do it and deal with what he thinks is important first. And that's a lesson every adult should teach their kids."

    Dayton Daily NewsLawmaker wants bright colors for replica guns - Opponents say bill wouldn’t be effective

    Jim Irvine of the Buckeye Firearms Association, however, says the bill wouldn’t be effective because people could paint over the bright colors and because criminals currently paint their real guns with an orange tip to look like a toy so they can gain the upper hand against police.

     “It is very dangerous to tell your police officers to shoot or don’t shoot someone based on the color of the gun,” he said.

    Gongwer News Service - Reece Proposes Bright Colors For Air Rifles In Response To Police Shooting Of Youth; Firearms Group Doubts Bill's Impact

    Rep. Alicia Reece said Monday she plans to introduce legislation that would make it easier for police to discern whether a suspect is holding a real firearm or an air rifle.

    The announcement follows Saturday's deadly shooting by police of 12-year-old Tamir Rice in Cleveland. The Democrat said her bill also harkens to the Dayton-area fatal shooting of John Crawford III at a Walmart in August.

    Both victims were shot while brandishing imitation guns.

    The Buckeye Firearms Association, meanwhile, expressed doubt that the bill would accomplish the sponsor's aim.

    ...

    Buckeye Firearms Association Legislative Chair Ken Hanson said the group is not necessarily opposed to the bill but does not think it would correct the problem.

    "What it comes down to, it's not a tool issue, it's a user issue, and when someone has a police officer in their face saying, 'put your hands up' and they're reaching for what appears to be a very, very real gun, that's the fault," he said in an interview, adding the people involved in high-profile police altercations are "disproportionately at fault."

    "The same thing with the Walmart out in Beavercreek, if you watch the video, that guy swung the gun up at customers 15 times in the video."

    In reference to the California legislation, Mr. Hanson said criminals are using the requirement for an orange tip on imitation guns to their advantage.

    "The people who are intending to do bad things have figured out that if you have an orange tip on a gun, the police hesitate," he said, adding that individuals could spray paint a real gun orange or paint a colorful imitation rifle black.



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